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Great one, Jon. My wife and I talk about how we would live with kids and how we would raise them all the time. Why we might love to have them, and ultimately, why we don't have them. (It's a narrow margin that has kept winning out!) And just recently, at a coffee shop after morning tennis, how we might lose this, and also how we might lose ourselves in other ways. I told her that we would not. We would just have to recalibrate all our habits and routines in a way that gives us the room for ourselves. And she does know it's true when I come back with this stuff. She has also said over the years that she would be afraid that she would be a crazy, Korean tiger mom, getting angry with them, etc. I always assure that she wouldn't. And anyway, I wouldn't let her. Haha

But while it would be true that we might not play tennis any morning we like, we would still do it, and we would still have coffee. Only our kid(s) would be there. And we would talk to them, share it with them, show them how to be when out, how to pay attention to things, etc. And that would be a different delight than how we currently do it. Everything would be a different kind of delight than how we currently do it.

But I always insist that we would never give ourselves up for our kids. (I mean, ultimately, I would give up anything for them, but I mean our SELVES, in the way you were writing about.) In fact, that is what we can't give up, because the most fundamental way we teach them is to model good behavior, a good life. I wouldn't allow myself to be a frazzled, flustered dad who didn't take care of his health, grooming, work, home, etc. And neither would my wife.

I also always add that of course I don't mean we would be perfect and always right on point. There would be scrambling, periods of burnout, etc. This is true just managing the two of us! But we always gather ourselves and get back on track, usually a new and higher track (this is the jagged upward graph of progress). And the ruts are shorter and shorter as we get wiser. I'm sure it would be the same with kids. Just different.

We have (half) joked for years that we ought to have kids just to show people how we would do it! To answer the, "Oh, you don't know. You don't KNOW." But I do know I would never compromise my very life. It's the one thing I need to maintain to show my son or daughter. But that window has all but finally closed at our age.

You guys are doing great, Jon, just be being good people. Good luck with it. And enjoy!

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Thought provoking article. I don't have a child. Always wanted one. I've been a teacher and a mentor and a leader. I can relate a little bit to the feeling of seeing someone whom you have nurtured, as they come into their own. It's a great feeling. But when they're not your actual kid, that feeling fades. I also appreciated how you tried to relate the feeling of nurturing a child to nurturing a project. I see that. It's not the same, but it has similarities. Compound interest works best when the relationship is maintained. That's probably why the parent-child relationship, (and perhaps the relationships of lovers,) is richer than any others.

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